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If this really is an AI bubble, let’s see some more inflation

If the AI trade were to have already peaked, we’d probably retroactively refer to this stretch as a mix of an earnings bubble (like the period of over-earning based on some unsustainable credit trends that preceded the financial crisis) and a valuation bubble (like the dot-com boom, where rapidly expanding price-to-earnings ratios were the key driver of explosive gains).

But if we’re doing anything close to running back the late ’90s, well, this bubble is going to get some more air to inflate it.

The so-called “Fed model” used to value the S&P 500 by subtracting its expected earnings yield from bond yield currently sits at about 0.35% in nominal terms and 2.6% in real terms, versus lows of -2.75% and -0.4%, respectively, during the dot-com episode. Lower readings indicate a higher willingness to buy risky securities relative to risk-free US government obligations.

In a recent report, Bank of America equity derivatives strategists led by Benjamin Bowler wrote:

“The AI revolution represents another profound technological leap, one that we think is likely to also result in an asset bubble. Strikingly, the late 90s analogy suggests that 2025 is tracking 1996, an interesting parallel even if coincidental. Moreover, a unique tailwind this time is the amplification coming from government support and the perceived existential threat AI dominance presents to geopolitical power. In our view, the likelihood of avoiding a significant asset bubble in AI seems low given this backdrop.”

Using its in-house methodology for assessing whether assets are in a bubble, they judge that “​​the core of the AI trade in the S&P, Nasdaq and the Magnificent 7 stocks remains far from these levels,” which suggests “the AI trade may still have room to run into 2026.”

Indeed, none of the publicly traded hyperscalers has a forward price-to-earnings ratio anywhere near Cisco’s peak of over 130 during the dot-com bubble.

Amazon, Meta, Google, and Microsoft don’t really trade at ridiculously high multiples on this metric, relative to their own history or the S&P 500. But for all except Amazon, these stocks have set fresh valuation peaks based on price to estimated free cash flow in 2025, data from Bloomberg shows.

(Oracle seems to be its own kettle of fish, so we’ll leave that alone to its Sam Altman-filled sea of doubts and debt here).

The difference here is capex, which weighs on earnings over time via depreciation expenses but impacts how much money is going in and out of the door immediately.

Ryan Cummings, chief of staff at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policymaking, notes that AI isn’t anywhere close to the lion’s share of sales or earnings for these firms, and estimates that AI-centric sales are being far outstripped by AI capex.

That’s pretty reasonable, considering that we’re still arguably in the early stages of pushing this technological frontier and that a good chunk of this spending is dedicated to making AI models better — putting them in a position where they will be bigger drivers of financial performance going forward.

One way to square this circle between elevated, not crazy forward valuations based on one metric and sky-high ones based on another is to conclude that the lack of runaway forward price-to-earnings ratios suggests that the market does continue to have some skepticism about the long-term earnings power associated with all these capital outlays.

Less doubt would equal higher valuations and higher stock prices. No doubt and unbridled optimism about how much these first movers in AI will reap rewards for years if not decades to come… that’s how we really get a bubble.

“Big Tech has compelling valuation on a growth-adjusted P/E basis, but free cash flow yields are hardly attractive,” wrote Michael Purves, CEO of Tallbacken Capital Advisors. “Ultimately, this valuation methodology debate boils down to the question of whether this massive capex spend will generate compelling returns on invested capital (ROIC). While we won’t know the answer to this ROIC question for some time, we expect the mere existence of this critical question to hover over the markets for some time.”

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Sandisk and Micron slip as Samsung rushes new product into production

Sandisk and Micron, which have boomed along with prices for the memory chips needed for the AI data center build-out, are limping behind the broader market Monday after a weekend report that South Korean chip giant Samsung is beginning “mass production” of its latest memory product, HBM4, slightly earlier than expected.

US memory chip maker Micron also makes HBM (high-bandwidth memory), which is essentially a large memory product designed for AI applications.

Sandisk doesn’t make HBM. But it is developing a kind of high-bandwidth flash NAND memory product that is intended to function as an HBM option for AI data centers.

More broadly, signs that Asian production giants are responding to high prices by ramping up supply means that the nosebleed pricing of memory chips that quintupled Sandisk’s profit over the last year might not last forever.

US memory chip maker Micron also makes HBM (high-bandwidth memory), which is essentially a large memory product designed for AI applications.

Sandisk doesn’t make HBM. But it is developing a kind of high-bandwidth flash NAND memory product that is intended to function as an HBM option for AI data centers.

More broadly, signs that Asian production giants are responding to high prices by ramping up supply means that the nosebleed pricing of memory chips that quintupled Sandisk’s profit over the last year might not last forever.

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Oracle rises as DA Davidson gives it a “buy” rating because of OpenAI positivity

Oracle rose after receiving an upgrade to start the week. Analysts at DA Davidson bumped up their view on the stock from “neutral” to “buy” and kept their $180 price target on the shares. That’s about 27% higher than Friday’s close.

Their shift isn’t so much about Oracle but about OpenAI, which Davidson folks now think is increasingly likely to be able to make good on billions of dollars’ worth of planned spending on computing power at Oracle and other hyperscalers. They wrote:

We are now more positive on OpenAI, based on changes in strategy, new frontier models, the pressure on Google’s competitors from its recent ascent, and progress on its fundraising efforts. Most importantly, we believe OpenAI already has as much as $40B of cash on hand and may be raising as much as another $100B by the end of the quarter, which should help pay for the data centers Oracle is building for OpenAI. Since the market is currently assigning the OpenAI relationship a negative value, we believe the fundraise will serve as a catalyst for outperformance.

For OpenAI’s part, CEO Sam Altman just told employees that the company was “back to exceeding 10% monthly growth,” according to CNBC reporting.

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Roblox rises following upgrade and price target hike from Roth Capital as growth in older players boosts optimism

Shares of Roblox are up in early trading on Monday following a price target hike and an upgrade from “neutral” to “buy” from Roth Capital.

Roth bumped its price target up from $78 to $84, with analyst Eric Handler citing the company’s “sustainable virtuous circle where continuously improving creator/development tools are producing higher quality games, which enhances the user experience, and drives higher engagement.”

Handler also noted Roblox’s success in growing its 18-plus player base, which increased 50% last year and, per Roth, “monetized 40% higher than under-18-users.”

The platform surged after reporting its fourth-quarter earnings last week, with stronger-than-expected full-year bookings guidance. Still, the stock remains below levels in January, before the debut of Google’s AI interactive worlds generator, Project Genie.

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