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CEO Andy Jassy’s answer on Amazon’s cloud business cost shareholders nearly $100 billion

Amazon CEO Andy Jassy was seemingly wrong-footed during the first round of questions he faced on Amazon’s conference call yesterday, and shareholders paid dearly for it.

JPMorgan analyst Doug Anmuth asked Jassy a two-parter: how are suppliers, Amazon, and consumers digesting tariffs? And, why is Amazon Web Services growing slower than Google’s or Microsoft’s respective cloud divisions?

If you can read this entire quote, and you’re still not sure why Google Cloud is growing faster than AWS, you have reached the same conclusion as the market.

Jassy’s answer (emphasis ours):

“On the question on AWS, yeah, the first thing I'd say is it's — as you said, Doug, in your question, year-over-year percentages and growth rates are always a function of the base in which you operate. And we have a meaningfully larger business in the AWS segment than others. I think the second player is about 65% of the size of AWS. And when we look at the results over the last number of quarters there are sometimes we're as far as we can tell, we're growing faster than others and sometimes others are growing faster than us. But it's still like if you look at the second place player, you're talking about, it's a pretty — it's still a pretty significant segment, market segment leadership position that we have.

And regardless, these are all really just moments in time. The last week is a moment-in-time too where the reality of what really matters is what customers' experiences are in operating on these platforms. And if you look at what matters to customers, what they care a lot about what the operational performance is, what the availability is, what the durability is, what the latency and throughput is of the various services. And I think we have a pretty significant advantage in that area.

They care a lot about security. If you have data that matters and for most companies they're putting data that they really care about in the cloud. The security and the privacy of that data matters a lot and there are very different results in security in AWS than you'll see in other players. And yeah, you could just — you just look at what's happened in the last couple of months, you can just see kind of ventures at some of these players almost every month. So very big difference, I think in security.

And then I think a really significant difference in functionality where not just in the core infrastructure do we have a lot more functionality in our services, but I think if you look at our end- to-end offering in AWS, in AI, it's from the bottom of stack all the way to the top, it's pretty different. So you know, I feel good about the inputs and the services that we're offering to customers across AI as well as non-AI. And we could — we have more demand than we have capacity right now. So we could be doing more revenue and helping customers more and we're working very hard on changing that outcome and how much capacity we have. But it's still — like look at the business, it's a $123 billion annual revenue run rate business and it's still early. I mean, how often do you have an opportunity that's a $123 billion of annual revenue run rate where you say it's still early? It's a very unusual opportunity that we're very bullish about.”

When you’re explaining, you’re losing. Especially when your peers can just point to the scoreboard.

I’m reminded of the moment in “Blow” when Johnny Depp’s character waxes philosophical on the nature of his alleged crime and the judicial system while offering his plea. The judge’s retort: “Unfortunately for you, the line you crossed was real and the plants you brought with you were illegal, so your bail is $20,000.”

Because unfortunately for Jassy, this “moment in time” is “earnings season” and the numbers and answers he brought with him were underwhelming, so his punishment is a near $100 billion loss in market cap from that answer alone, as shares slumped roughly 4% amid those comments.

“On the question on AWS, yeah, the first thing I'd say is it's — as you said, Doug, in your question, year-over-year percentages and growth rates are always a function of the base in which you operate. And we have a meaningfully larger business in the AWS segment than others. I think the second player is about 65% of the size of AWS. And when we look at the results over the last number of quarters there are sometimes we're as far as we can tell, we're growing faster than others and sometimes others are growing faster than us. But it's still like if you look at the second place player, you're talking about, it's a pretty — it's still a pretty significant segment, market segment leadership position that we have.

And regardless, these are all really just moments in time. The last week is a moment-in-time too where the reality of what really matters is what customers' experiences are in operating on these platforms. And if you look at what matters to customers, what they care a lot about what the operational performance is, what the availability is, what the durability is, what the latency and throughput is of the various services. And I think we have a pretty significant advantage in that area.

They care a lot about security. If you have data that matters and for most companies they're putting data that they really care about in the cloud. The security and the privacy of that data matters a lot and there are very different results in security in AWS than you'll see in other players. And yeah, you could just — you just look at what's happened in the last couple of months, you can just see kind of ventures at some of these players almost every month. So very big difference, I think in security.

And then I think a really significant difference in functionality where not just in the core infrastructure do we have a lot more functionality in our services, but I think if you look at our end- to-end offering in AWS, in AI, it's from the bottom of stack all the way to the top, it's pretty different. So you know, I feel good about the inputs and the services that we're offering to customers across AI as well as non-AI. And we could — we have more demand than we have capacity right now. So we could be doing more revenue and helping customers more and we're working very hard on changing that outcome and how much capacity we have. But it's still — like look at the business, it's a $123 billion annual revenue run rate business and it's still early. I mean, how often do you have an opportunity that's a $123 billion of annual revenue run rate where you say it's still early? It's a very unusual opportunity that we're very bullish about.”

When you’re explaining, you’re losing. Especially when your peers can just point to the scoreboard.

I’m reminded of the moment in “Blow” when Johnny Depp’s character waxes philosophical on the nature of his alleged crime and the judicial system while offering his plea. The judge’s retort: “Unfortunately for you, the line you crossed was real and the plants you brought with you were illegal, so your bail is $20,000.”

Because unfortunately for Jassy, this “moment in time” is “earnings season” and the numbers and answers he brought with him were underwhelming, so his punishment is a near $100 billion loss in market cap from that answer alone, as shares slumped roughly 4% amid those comments.

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SpaceX gets a wave of bullish ratings from Wall Street analysts

SpaceX received more than a dozen positive analyst calls on Tuesday — including from major Wall Street banks — as they initiate coverage on Elon Musk’s space and AI company.

SpaceX went public on June 12 at a $2.2 trillion valuation, the largest debut in history. While the company hasn’t yet posted a profit, it seems to have convinced Wall Street that it will get there and grow its valuation on the way.

Of the at least 17 analysts that gave a rating on Tuesday, all but one gave it a “buy” or “outperform” rating. MoffettNathanson was "neutral."

The ratings come as SpaceX joined the Nasdaq 100 index, a benchmark tech-heavy basket of companies that underpins millions of portfolios. The inclusion adds built-in demand for the stock from index funds and ETFs.

Still, SpaceX fell more than 5% on Tuesday amid a broader sell-off, and is currently effectively flat from its opening price of $150 a share.

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Nike sinks to lowest level since 2014 after warning of “challenged” sales environment in Q4 report

Did Nike do it?

Investors had a mixed reaction after the global sports apparel company reported its fourth quarter earnings on Tuesday after the bell. Shares initially rose 5% as Nike beat out Wall Street expectations amid a hefty tariff refund bonus. However, the stock then sank to its lowest level since August 2014 in postmarket trading.

Here are the Q4 numbers:

  • Revenue of $11.0 billion (estimate: $10.8 billion).

  • Adjusted earnings per share of $0.20 (estimate: $0.12).

Ahead of this report, Nike warned that results would be flattered by a one-time tariff refund (now estimated at roughly $0.52 per share for the bottom line). That gave the company an extra cushion in snapping its streak of seven quarters of year-over-year profit declines.

Over the past year, the company had been punished by tariffs on imported goods, stagnant consumer spending, and increasing competition from other footwear brands like New Balance, Adidas, and Hoka.

Outgoing CFO Matthew Friend deemed it an “increasingly challenging operating environment, where sell-through remains challenged.”

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