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Debunking the overhyped story that high interest rates fuel inflation

Higher levels of interest income don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on spending and inflation

Luke Kawa

The idea that high interest rates are contributing to higher inflation is in vogue nowadays.

The basic line of thinking is that higher interest rates mean more interest income for bondholders, and therefore more spending power, which can fuel price pressures.

That Warren Mosler, the godfather of Modern Monetary Theory (a school of thought that holds that government spending is constrained by real resources rather than any financial limitations) would have a relatively heterodox economic view is unsurprising. But the likes of BlackRock head of fixed income Rick Rieder are singing from a similar hymnal.

Households’ interest income from all sources is running at over $1.8 trillion annualized as of May – a hefty sum, on its face. That compares to about $530 billion in personal interest payments.

“We can both come up with a narrative of what we think the propensity is to consume out of interest income, but we're not going to know until after it happens,” said Mosler on Bloomberg’s Odd Lots podcast. “And I looked at, in prior cycles, the data was telling me that it's not zero, that there's a substantial amount that directly or indirectly does get spent.”

No arguments there, at least directionally. Even though, generally speaking, people who pay interest expense are more likely to spend an extra dollar of income than people who receive interest income.

But the problem is that interest income doesn’t appear to be that potent a channel to warrant headlines when it comes to discussions over what is and isn’t driving US spending and inflation.

Interest payments received account for just 7.6% of personal income. Further, once you adjust that for interest paid by households, the net figure is down to just 5.4% of total income – near the record low of 5.1% from 2021 and well below the long-term average of 9.5%.

“Interest income received as a share of total income is below any point in the low-rate environment after the Global Financial Crisis,” said Mayank Seksaria, head of global macro at Liberty Mutual Investments. “It’s difficult to make the case that higher payouts on money market accounts are having a big impact on spending at the macro level.”

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American Eagle posts stronger-than-expected Q4 earnings and revenue

If American Eagle has seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulders of Sydney Sweeney.

The jeans seller posted adjusted earnings of $0.84 per share, ahead of the $0.71 expected by analysts polled by FactSet. It booked $1.76 billion in fourth-quarter revenue, versus the $1.74 billion consensus.

Shares initially climbed more than 5% after-hours before paring gains to about 2%.

“Compelling new product collections, supported by fresh marketing campaigns, led to higher demand trends in the quarter,” said CEO Jay Schottenstein.

American Eagle said it’s expecting same-store sales to grow by high single digits in the first quarter.

Marketing controversy has proved to be a powerful mover of denim for AE. In its third-quarter earnings call in December, AE said its partnership with Sydney Sweeney — together with a Travis Kelce partnership — had garnered more than 44 billion impressions. The retailer hit meme stock status last July when it initially launched its “Sydney Sweeney has great jeans” campaign.

As of Wednesday’s close, American Eagle shares had climbed 120% since the Sweeney ad first landed.

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Investors are itching to buy the dip in memory stocks

The intense drubbing in South Korean stocks, with the benchmark Korean index (KOSPI) falling nearly 20% in its first two trading days of the week following a Monday holiday, represented a serious threat to the hottest AI trade: memory stocks.

South Korea’s market is dominated by two high-bandwidth memory giants: SK Hynix and Samsung.

After Tuesday’s tumble, US investors seemingly said enough is enough: it’s a buy-the-dip opportunity.

US memory stocks like Micron, Sandisk, Western Digital, and Seagate Technology Holdings are posting massive gains on the day. The advance comes amid positive commentary at a Morgan Stanley conference on demand for memory chips.

Even more interestingly, the iShares MSCI South Korea ETF is up big today despite the KOSPI falling 12% overnight, its largest drop on record. The ETF’s outperformance of the South Korean equity gauge is the largest since 2008, as the global financial crisis raged.

The daily performance of these two can differ materially since they trade at different times and don’t track precisely the same things. US investors are making the bet that a potential break in this momentum trade and the potential for an unwind of retail leverage in South Korean markets be damned, big drops in memory stocks are meant to be bought.

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