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Commvault CEO on the “next wave” for the data security firm

A strategic shift toward a SaaS model reinvigorated growth at the midcap data security firm. Its share price has been running.

Data security company Commvault crushed earnings expectations Tuesday, sending the stock up some 20% in its best daily gain since last October.

With the animal spirits clearly romping in the market, Commvault, a midcap vendor of B2B data security and IT data services, isn’t the sexiest thing for investors to get excited about.

But its share price has been on the move, rising more than 140% over the last couple years — handily outpacing the S&P MidCap 400’s return of about 18% — as the company has managed to reinvigorate sales, push up profit margins, and deal with the activist investors who were targeting the stock a few years back.

We sat down with Commvault CEO Sanjay Mirchandani, who took over in 2019, to get a sense of how durable he thinks the company’s turnaround is as well as its prospects for growing into the expensive valuation the market has slapped on the stock, with a forward price to sales of 6.3x compared to a 1.3x for the index.

This conversation was edited for clarity and concision.

Matt Phillips, Sherwood News: Sanjay, thanks taking some time today. It’s a big day for the stock, by the way, as I’m sure you noticed. You were named as Commvault’s CEO in 2019, when the company was facing some pressure from activist investors after a few years of spotty financial performance. Talk about some key decisions you made.

Sanjay Mirchandani: One of the first decisions we made was to invest in a SaaS product, even though our industry was sort of the last to embrace SaaS and the public cloud. But we invested in a product called Metallic within weeks of my coming onboard.

Sherwood: Bearing in mind that a lot of our readers are probably not going to know the company that well, in just the most basic way possible, what does Metallic do?

Mirchandani: It was built to be a data protection suite, delivered as a SaaS product. So it’s a service, and we run it for you. If you’ve got Office 365, if you’ve got Salesforce.com, if you’ve got your own homegrown apps that are cloud-native, virtual machines — whatever your infrastructure, your application layers involved, we back that up for you.

But the beauty of what we built, if I may be immodest for a minute, is that we made it seamless for customers as they move to the public cloud to avail themselves of our capabilities, either cloud-based or on-premise.

If your IT organization was doing all of this management for you, they got to see all of it in a single pane of glass, whether it was on-premise that they were managing or it was in the cloud that we were managing.

Sherwood: So the focus on SaaS was clearly a strategic decision you thought the company had to make.

Mirchandani: I had no crystal ball to say how fast it would happen, but it was inevitable. Our industry was last part of the data infrastructure business that needed to embrace the public cloud.

I’m happy to say that that was one thing we did that has held us in very good stead as a company, and it’s coming through in our results. Our SaaS annual recurring revenue is north of $300 million, for a product that is a basically 4.5-year-old business.

Sherwood: To move toward some of these numbers you reported today, how did those strategic decisions that we talked about map onto the reinvigoration of growth at the company? It looks like it was 25.5% year-on-year growth in the most recent quarter. A few years back that was more like 6% or 7%.

Mirchandani: First things first, the platform we’re building, we build every day and we enhance every day. It doesn’t matter what workload it is, what cloud on the edge, on-premise, it doesn’t matter. We are by far the leader.

So innovation at the end of it is key because what we’re selling for customers is a really tough problem. If you’re an airline, if you’re a retailer, if you’re an accounting company, your competence is that business. It’s not cyber resilience or cybersecurity. But those are capabilities every company now has to be darn good at. The bad guys only have to be right once; you have to right every single time.

We have a great platform that we continue to invest in. I spent over a billion dollars over the last three, four years on R&D — significant for a company of our size. We have over 1,100 patents, active patents, and we take that very seriously. We innovate and bring that value to customers.

Number two: cloud first. Everyone’s going cloud first. And building an application and protecting it in the cloud is a world apart from building an application and protecting it on-premise, as you did two or three or four years ago. What we’re trying to do is be in front of the customer’s problems related to the cloud.

Sherwood: You mentioned your focus on bringing some of your technologies to the AI world. Does that push have a name? Is there a new product? Is there something I should be looking for?

Mirchandani: In November, we’re going to be announcing a whole bunch of new things along the lines of what we, you and I, have been talking about at a high level. For us, AI is about adding value. And what we do is we help customers be more resilient, so my AI efforts in the company, my R&D efforts using AI for customers, is to enable them to be more resistant. We’re using AI to help with that kind of thing: detecting threats, managing those threats, giving you a point of view on those threats. We also build AI into the product to make it more usable, self-healing, self-helping, so customers can get up and running faster.

We just bought a company, Satori, and what Satori does is really visibility, observability, and policy enforcement on data. That makes complete sense when you’re building AI model LLMs, you’re training them, and your employees are interacting with them. You want to make sure that there’s some oversight and enforcement. So we bought this little company out of Israel to help us further enhance the platform with observability. We think this is going to be the next wave.

Sherwood: That seems like a pretty good place to leave it. Thanks very much for taking the time. I really appreciate it.

Mirchandani: Likewise.

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Stocks get a jolt as Netanyahu says Israel is helping US efforts to open Strait of Hormuz

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a press conference that his country is helping with US efforts to open the Strait of Hormuz, putting a jolt into stocks. 

The S&P 500, which had been solidly negative for most of the day, turned slightly green after the remarks. The rebound lost a bit of steam shortly thereafter, but stocks still remained higher than they were before Netanyahu’s comments.

“Israel is helping, in its own way, in intel and other means, the American efforts to open the Strait of [Hormuz],” Netanyahu said, according to a video of the press conference.

Here are another few interesting headlines coming across from the presser, per Reuters:

*NETANYAHU: IRAN HAS NO CAPACITY TO ENRICH URANIUM OR MAKE BALLISTIC MISSILES AFTER 20 DAYS OF WAR

*NETANYAHU: CAN’T DO A REVOLUTION FROM THE AIR, THERE NEEDS TO BE A GROUND COMPONENT AS WELL

*NETANYAHU: ISRAEL ACTED ALONE AGAINST SOUTH PARS

*NETANYAHU: TRUMP ASKED US TO HOLD OFF ON FUTURE SUCH ATTACKS

And here’s how the market reacted instantly after his comments:

“Israel is helping, in its own way, in intel and other means, the American efforts to open the Strait of [Hormuz],” Netanyahu said, according to a video of the press conference.

Here are another few interesting headlines coming across from the presser, per Reuters:

*NETANYAHU: IRAN HAS NO CAPACITY TO ENRICH URANIUM OR MAKE BALLISTIC MISSILES AFTER 20 DAYS OF WAR

*NETANYAHU: CAN’T DO A REVOLUTION FROM THE AIR, THERE NEEDS TO BE A GROUND COMPONENT AS WELL

*NETANYAHU: ISRAEL ACTED ALONE AGAINST SOUTH PARS

*NETANYAHU: TRUMP ASKED US TO HOLD OFF ON FUTURE SUCH ATTACKS

And here’s how the market reacted instantly after his comments:

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Gold tumbles as market sees Fed shifting toward inflation fighting

Gold and gold miners tumbled Thursday, as the rolling Iran war energy crisis revived worries about inflation and pushed the market to take additional rate cuts this year off the table.

Gold (SPDR Gold Shares ETF) futures dropped roughly 6% shortly after 12 p.m. ET, hammering share prices for miners Newmont and Freeport-McMoRan. Silver (iShares Silver Trust) futures were down nearly 9%.

The decline in precious metals came alongside another sharp rise in energy prices. US benchmark crude oil (United States Oil Fund LP) and natural gas prices both jumped more than 3% after major Iranian attacks on Qatari energy infrastructure. US retail gasoline prices tracked by the American Automobile Association hit $3.884, up 33% from the end of last month, when a joint US-Israeli attack on Iran ignited hostilities.

Normally, gold prices are seen as a hedge on inflation, which might suggest that they should rise alongside expectations for persistent price increases.

But the speed of the Iran war energy shock — which will add to inflationary pressures already visible in recent economic reports, such as this week’s Producer Price Index, and could become a political problem for the Trump administration — has nudged traders to change their their views on whether the Federal Reserve would be able to deliver the rate cuts widely expected just a few weeks ago.

Yields on shorter-maturity US Treasury notes shot higher Thursday, reflecting expectations for tighter monetary policy. And prices in the market for federal funds futures suggest traders no longer see the US central bank cutting interest rates this year at all. (Early this month, market pricing implied expectations for two more cuts this year.)

On Thursday, yields fell on longer-term US government securities, such as the US 30-year bond. That suggests the market thinks a Fed shift toward inflation fighting and away from rate cutting would likely result in some decline in growth and/or inflation, helping to explain the drop in precious metals prices, as there would be less of a need for inflation hedges in such a scenario.

The decline in precious metals came alongside another sharp rise in energy prices. US benchmark crude oil (United States Oil Fund LP) and natural gas prices both jumped more than 3% after major Iranian attacks on Qatari energy infrastructure. US retail gasoline prices tracked by the American Automobile Association hit $3.884, up 33% from the end of last month, when a joint US-Israeli attack on Iran ignited hostilities.

Normally, gold prices are seen as a hedge on inflation, which might suggest that they should rise alongside expectations for persistent price increases.

But the speed of the Iran war energy shock — which will add to inflationary pressures already visible in recent economic reports, such as this week’s Producer Price Index, and could become a political problem for the Trump administration — has nudged traders to change their their views on whether the Federal Reserve would be able to deliver the rate cuts widely expected just a few weeks ago.

Yields on shorter-maturity US Treasury notes shot higher Thursday, reflecting expectations for tighter monetary policy. And prices in the market for federal funds futures suggest traders no longer see the US central bank cutting interest rates this year at all. (Early this month, market pricing implied expectations for two more cuts this year.)

On Thursday, yields fell on longer-term US government securities, such as the US 30-year bond. That suggests the market thinks a Fed shift toward inflation fighting and away from rate cutting would likely result in some decline in growth and/or inflation, helping to explain the drop in precious metals prices, as there would be less of a need for inflation hedges in such a scenario.

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Novo says FDA has approved high-dose Wegovy shot

The Food and Drug Administration approved Novo Nordisk’s high-dose Wegovy shot, the company announced on Thursday.

Wegovy HD, a once-weekly 7.2-milligram injection, helped patients lose 20.7% of their body weight after 72 weeks, putting it in line with Eli Lilly’s competitor drug, Zepbound. By comparison, Wegovy typically has a maximum dose of 2.4 milligrams, which resulted in 15% weight reduction over 68 weeks in trials.

Wegovy HD was the first drug to be approved through the FDA’s new priority voucher system. This comes as Novo, despite being early to the GLP-1 boom, has been outpaced in sales by Lilly. The company released a pill version of Wegovy in January, which has shown strong early uptake, though new competitor products are set to debut this year and next.

The stock is down about 1.6% for the day, but was down nearly 3% before the announcement.

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