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Market valuation climbs back to Covid boom territory

“Fundamentals matter in the long run, but in the short run, they’re meaningless,” one strategist told MarketWatch.

Everything looks incredibly rosy out there, if the market is to be believed.

With tariff-related inflation still a no-show, the market seems to less inclined to think trade war equals recession. That means expectations for corporate earnings are rising. And there’s nothing in the way of Fed rate hikes on the horizon, or yips emerging from the bond market.

In other words, as they like to say, it’s risk on, which creates a risk of its own: paying too much.

Look, I’ve been droning on about valuation recently, and yes, in the short term it’s a terrible timing device. Stocks can stay expensive and get more expensive for a good long while, especially when there’s a favorable wind at their back.

Case in point: MarketWatch is out with a piece talking about the recent upswing in “story stocks” — companies that might not make a ton of money at the moment, but that nevertheless capture the fancy of traders with convincing narratives about how their technological advantage will inevitably lead to world domination at some point in the far-off, hazy future.

Such tales, when combined with a solid price performance, really seem to be taking off right now, with traders seemingly less worried about a spotty history of profitability. MarketWatch wrote:

“Of the 10 stocks in the Russell 3000 index with the biggest year-to-date gains, many of the companies have one ominous thing in common: a spotty or nonexistent record of generating profit.

Take Aeva Inc. The stock was up more than 500% through Thursday's close, making it the top performer in the U.S. broad-market index. Yet the company reported losses for the past four consecutive quarters, FactSet data showed. The 10th-best stock, OptimizeRx Corp., saw its market value nearly triple this year, despite reporting losses in three of the past four quarters.”

And there are plenty of great stories out there for investors to be enamored of, from the integration of crypto into the legitimate financial system to the never-ending hype surrounding all things AI.

But fuddy-duddies such as myself can’t help ourselves from remarking on high price-to-earnings ratios on the broad market indexes at the moment.

Just look at the forward price-to-earnings ratio of the S&P 500, which climbed above 22x recently.

Until the post-Covid trading boom — it popped up during the stimmy-fueled trading boom of 2021 — I’d never seen a valuation that high during my career as a stonks hack.

More recently, the S&P 500 saw a 22x multiple prior to the tariff tantrum that nearly pushed us into a bear market in April.

Before that, you’ve got to go back to the tail end of the dot-com boom of the late 1990s to see valuations this high.

For the record, I’m not the only one who’s noticed signs of froth in the market. Bank of America analysts were out with a note today saying that small caps are “back to expensive.” Likewise, Deutsche Bank analysts marked some “pockets of exuberance” in the market, like rising bullish call options activity.

But few analysts are suggesting “fading” a rally driven in part by the relentless retail dip-buying that has emerged as a formidable stabilizing force in the market since the Covid crisis hit.

Some problem, crisis, issue, or uncertainty could emerge to dissuade the dip-buying masses from hitting the buy button if or when a serious sell-off comes. But it didn’t happen during the peak of the recent tariff panic.

It’s also quite hard to imagine what it might be. So, for the moment, this is a rally that is hard to dismiss.

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Margins, and selling the news: analysts look to explain Oracle’s tumble

The somewhat counterintuitive tumble in Oracle shares continued into afternoon trading Friday, despite Wall Street analysts’ more or less favorable reaction to Oracle’s investor day presentation Thursday, where executives said the company’s AI cloud business would eventually sport margins of between 30% and 40%, far better than the figures reported by The Information back on September 7.

And yet, the stock is on its way to its worst day in the last six months. What gives?

Gil Lauria, who covers Oracle for D.A. Davidson & Co. — who has it at “hold” with a $300 price target — has a theory, telling Sherwood News:

“Investors are disappointed that the entire growth acceleration in Oracle is from the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure business, and that Oracle expects the rest of the business to grow low single digits.

The other disappointment came from Oracle acknowledging that the GPU rental business only had 30-40% gross margins, far lower than the 80% gross margins for the rest of the business.”

Other analysts we’ve chatted with on background say they’re not convinced the margin story is the source of today’s slump, suggesting the also plausible explanation that the drop might just be a sign traders bought the stock ahead of the presentation to analysts on Thursday anticipating positive announcements, and now they’re selling simply selling the news.

Gil Lauria, who covers Oracle for D.A. Davidson & Co. — who has it at “hold” with a $300 price target — has a theory, telling Sherwood News:

“Investors are disappointed that the entire growth acceleration in Oracle is from the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure business, and that Oracle expects the rest of the business to grow low single digits.

The other disappointment came from Oracle acknowledging that the GPU rental business only had 30-40% gross margins, far lower than the 80% gross margins for the rest of the business.”

Other analysts we’ve chatted with on background say they’re not convinced the margin story is the source of today’s slump, suggesting the also plausible explanation that the drop might just be a sign traders bought the stock ahead of the presentation to analysts on Thursday anticipating positive announcements, and now they’re selling simply selling the news.

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Analysts generally like what they heard from Oracle, but shares are down

The big news out from the Oracle AI World conference was broadly positive: that margins on cloud infrastructure can be as high as 35%, and that the company predicts $166 billion in infrastructure revenue by 2030.

And in the wake of that news, today UBS raised its price target for Oracle shares to $380 from $360, saying they are undervalued.

But investors appear to have some concerns about Oracle’s huge capex plans, which are fueled by huge AI infrastructure deals with OpenAI and Meta, as shares dropped over 7% in Friday trading.

Analysts have pointed to Oracle’s high cash burn as it pursues its AI build-out and potential financing needs as flies in the ointment that could blunt the impact of the company’s strong longer-term growth forecasts.

On Friday, Jefferies analysts wrote:

“Questions remain about ORCL’s capex requirements to meet growing demand, as there was no forward-looking commentary on capex at the Analyst Day. Capex will need to ramp in line with [Oracle cloud infrastructure] revenue growth, raising concerns about ORCL’s financing options to support this expansion.”

However, if that’s the reason why the stock is getting hit today, it would mark a distinct change in how investors are evaluating the AI trade. Companies have tended to be increasingly rewarded for their aggressive capex commitments to enhance the boom, based on optimism that investments in this would-be revolutionary technology will bear fruit.

Friday’s dip comes on the back of a strong run leading up to the yesterday’s investor conference, fueled by a flurry of AI headlines. Oracle shares have gained over 18% in the past three months and more than 70% so far this year, well outpacing the Nasdaq’s approximately 7% and 16% rise over the same time periods.

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AST SpaceMobile drops after Barclays cuts rating to “underweight”

AST SpaceMobile, which provides cellular services from space, dove in early trading after Barclays analysts cut their rating on the shares to “underweight” (essentially a sell) from “overweight” (or a buy), citing “excessive” valuation on the still money-burning company. The fact that analysts went from “buy” to “sell” — with no momentary stop at a “hold” or “neutral” rating — makes it a fairly rare “double downgrade.”

They wrote:

“Valuation has run ahead of fundamentals... In our last update, we increased our price target from $38 to $60 as we took a more constructive view on pricing; we found it supportive that TMUS/Starlink launched a text only service for $10 per month and believe that AST products which will be richer (text, call, broadband) could see higher prices points. Since then the stock price has doubled from $48 to $95.7.”

With the shares up almost 120% over the last month through Thursday, and a price-to-forward-sales ratio of 140x — the Nasdaq Composite is around 5x — the stock might be due for a cooling-off period.

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