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Tesla posts best revenue ever in last quarter with EV tax credit, but the stock slides on weaker margins

Tesla’s stock has stayed in the red in early trading on Thursday.

Updated 10/23/25 7:44AM

The last quarter with the US government’s EV tax credit was a serious boon for Tesla’s top line.

The company posted its highest quarterly revenue ever, at $28.1 billion in the third quarter, coming in ahead of Wall Street’s expectation of $26.4 billion. Unfortunately for Elon Musk and co. the top line strength failed to cascade through to the bottom line, with adjusted earnings per share coming in at $0.50, shy of analysts’ forecast of $0.54, according to data from Bloomberg.

The stock, which is known to swing sharply after earnings, fell after-hours, and has continued to stay in the red in early trading on Thursday.

During the earnings call, Musk made the case that “Tesla really is the leader in real-world AI” and, to that end, attempted to address the future of its autonomous cars and robots — topics Tesla bulls are more concerned with than old-fashioned electric cars.

He said the company now has “clarity” on achieving unsupervised full-self driving, but didn’t specify exactly what that meant. He did say it gave him confidence to expand vehicle production “as quickly as we can,” potentially hitting an annualized production rate of 3 million in the next two years. It’s unclear, however, if the demand for so many vehicles is there. Analysts expect Tesla’s full-year sales to decline for the second year in a row to 1.656 million in 2025.

Musk also said Tesla’s robotaxi program would be expanding to 8-10 cities this year, down from being available to half the US population as he said in July. It’s likely if that expansion does occur it will be akin to Tesla’s Uber-like service in the Bay Area where a person sits in the driver’s seat and uses supervised FSD — not really an autonomous experience.

On the robot front, Musk said Tesla will unveil Optimus version 3 in the first quarter of 2026, but noted that perfecting the robot’s hands has proven difficult and that they would be “doing rolling changes for the Optimus design even after start of production.” Earlier this year Musk claimed Tesla would build 10,000 robots for internal use in 2025.

Back in the present, Tesla still gets the vast majority of its revenue from regular EVs.

The latest earnings come after Tesla sold a record number of vehicles in the third quarter, helped by customers who flocked to buy EVs en masse to take advantage of the $7,500 tax credits before they expired.

Of course, that credit is going away and Tesla also accomplished the feat of record sales by offering huge discounts that ate into its profit margins.

Tesla’s automotive gross margin excluding revenue credits was 15.4% last quarter, down from 17.1% a year earlier. The analyst consensus was 16.3%, according to FactSet. For a longer-term comparison, that number was nearly 30% for the third quarter of 2021.

As a countermeasure to the end of the government’s tax credit, Tesla earlier this month unveiled its long-awaited more affordable vehicles, in the form of lower-trim versions of its Model 3 and Model Y. These “Standard” models cost about $5,000 less than previous versions, but also have a lot fewer features, with the intention of increasing sales volume as a way to drive overall revenue, though it’s likely that could eat into earnings.

Tesla reported $417 million in regulatory credits in the third quarter, down from $739 million a year ago. That number will likely decline going forward since there's effectively no longer a regulatory credit market in the US.

Tesla's overall net income dropped to $1.4 billion, down 37% from a year earlier, as operating costs soared: R&D expenses jumped 57%, and selling, general and administrative expenses climbed 32%.

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SpaceX filings reportedly show no one can fire Elon Musk except Elon Musk

The only thing stopping Elon Musk from being chairman and CEO of SpaceX is Elon Musk, according to Reuters, which viewed an excerpt of the company’s IPO filing.

The document outlines a dual-class share structure giving Musk control via super-voting stock. The filing says he “can only be removed from our board or these positions by the vote of Class B holders” — shares he’ll control after the listing. It adds that if he keeps those shares, he could “continue to control the election and removal of a majority of our board.”

At a typical public company — even founder-led ones with dual-class structures — a CEO can be fired by the board of directors, which represents shareholders and can vote to remove them over issues such as corporate performance, strategy, or misconduct.

The unusual SpaceX setup means Musk is unlikely to face the kind of CEO succession pressure he’s dealt with at Tesla. Musk, of course, is not a typical CEO, and the value of his companies has long been closely tied to his presence.

To be sure, SpaceXs confidential IPO filing isnt in its final form yet — while the filing is still in the confidential phase, the company will be going back and forth with the SEC, which will review it and suggest or require changes.

At a typical public company — even founder-led ones with dual-class structures — a CEO can be fired by the board of directors, which represents shareholders and can vote to remove them over issues such as corporate performance, strategy, or misconduct.

The unusual SpaceX setup means Musk is unlikely to face the kind of CEO succession pressure he’s dealt with at Tesla. Musk, of course, is not a typical CEO, and the value of his companies has long been closely tied to his presence.

To be sure, SpaceXs confidential IPO filing isnt in its final form yet — while the filing is still in the confidential phase, the company will be going back and forth with the SEC, which will review it and suggest or require changes.

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OpenAI’s models are officially coming to Amazon

Amazon is finally getting in on the hottest ticket in tech.

After Microsoft announced yesterday that it has agreed to give up its exclusive rights to sell OpenAI’s models, Amazon, as expected, will start offering them to customers — something Amazon Web Services CEO Matt Garman says users have been asking for “for a really long time.” Some models are available now in preview, and the most powerful GPT versions will show up “in the coming weeks.”

This is a big shift in the AI cloud wars. Microsoft’s early bet on OpenAI gave Azure an edge by locking up the most in-demand models. Now that exclusivity is gone, Amazon and other competitors can finally offer them too, closing a key gap and competing more directly for AI customers.

This is a big shift in the AI cloud wars. Microsoft’s early bet on OpenAI gave Azure an edge by locking up the most in-demand models. Now that exclusivity is gone, Amazon and other competitors can finally offer them too, closing a key gap and competing more directly for AI customers.

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Ship-tracking app surges as Iran war continues

As Middle East peace talks stretch on, with Tehran reportedly offering to reopen the Strait of Hormuz if the US lifts its blockade and the war ends, the owner of shipping intelligence platform MarineTraffic revealed that the app has gained millions of new users since the conflict began.

MarineTraffic’s user count jumped to 8.5 million this April, up from 3.5 million a year ago, the cofounder of its parent company, Kpler, said in an interview with the Financial Times. Paid subscribers, often workers within companies and governments looking for more data on supply chains and commodities trading, rose 11,000 in the same period.

Kpler, which also owns shipping intelligence platform FleetMon, draws its data from a range of sources, including the Automatic Identification System, satellites, and more than 500 people on-site, like port terminal operators.

Per Appfigures data, MarineTraffic is estimated to have raked in almost $1 million across March and April in app revenue (through April 27), more than double the ~$346,500 from the same months last year. Across the full year, Kpler expects to earn between $300 million and $400 million in annual recurring revenues.

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Google will supply AI models to Pentagon in classified deal, per The Information

Google has become the latest tech company to ink an agreement to supply the Department of Defense (War) with AI, having reportedly closed a classified deal that allows the Pentagon to use its AI for “any lawful government purpose,” according to The Information.

The Information initially reported talks between the Alphabet-owned company and the US government around two weeks ago, following the messy breakdown of the relationship between Anthropic and the Trump administration — and the rushed OpenAI deal that took its place.

The move has reportedly sparked opposition among Google employees, with The Washington Post reporting that over 600 workers signed a letter to CEO Sundar Pichai to ask him to bar the Defense Department from using the company’s AI models for any classified work.

The Information initially reported talks between the Alphabet-owned company and the US government around two weeks ago, following the messy breakdown of the relationship between Anthropic and the Trump administration — and the rushed OpenAI deal that took its place.

The move has reportedly sparked opposition among Google employees, with The Washington Post reporting that over 600 workers signed a letter to CEO Sundar Pichai to ask him to bar the Defense Department from using the company’s AI models for any classified work.

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