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Oracle’s conference call exacerbated the two biggest reasons why investors are worried about its future

Shares are off double digits in early trading as capex is going up, debt is going up, and turning Oracle’s sales backlog into high-margin business is off to a slow start.

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Investors had concerns about Oracle heading into its earnings report.

Chief among them: how much debt will the company need to support its ambitious capital expenditure plans, and how quickly will these outlays turn into high-margin business?

Those worries had driven the stock down 30% from its record close on September 10, the session after its last earnings report, and fostered a surge in its credit default swap spreads.

Shares were already down nearly 7% in postmarket trading after Oracle’s Q2 2026 results showed revenues and cloud computing sales were light compared to expectations. Furthermore, capex of $12 billion was $3.8 billion higher than the consensus estimate, driving negative free cash flow of nearly $10 billion for the quarter, $4 billion worse than analysts had anticipated.

Early in the conference call, management said capital spending in this fiscal year (which ends May 31, 2026) would be $15 billion higher than previously envisaged.

Accordingly, the first two questions that executives fielded on the conference call were from analysts looking for clarity on these topics: the outlook for debt and profitability. The stock retreated even deeper into the red after the boost to capex guidance was announced, and nothing management said thereafter gave shares a bid.

Deutsche Bank’s Brad Zelnick commented that the company’s data center build-out was “a far more capital-intensive proposition unlike any business Oracle has ever been in before,” asking, “Very specifically, how much money does Oracle need to raise to fund its AI growth plans ahead?”

Chief Executive Clay Magouyrk’s response (emphasis added):

“First, let me give you kind of the reason why it’s hard to answer that question exactly. So the thing I think that a lot of people don’t understand is that we actually have a lot of different options for how we go about delivering this capacity to customers. There’s obviously the way that people think about it, which is we buy all the hardware up front. And as we — as I talked about at my financial analyst meeting, we don’t actually incur any expenses for these large data centers until they’re actually operational. So then it goes on to, well, how do you pay and what’s the kind of cash flows look like for the stuff that goes into the data center? Well, we have some other interesting models that we’ve been working on. One of them is that customers can actually bring their own chips. And in those models, Oracle obviously doesn’t have to incur any capital expenditures up front for that model.

Similarly, we have different models that we’re working on with different vendors, where some vendors are actually very interested in a model where they rent their capacity rather than selling that capacity. And as you can imagine, that comes with different cash flow impacts that are favorable and reduce the overall borrowing needs and capital required for Oracle.

So as you can imagine, as we look at all of these kind of commitments, we will use a range and a variety of those such that we minimize the overall cost of capital as well as in certain cases, we’ll be raising our own funds. As part of that, I think it’s important that everyone understand that we’re committed to maintaining our investment-grade debt rating.

So now to give you some more specifics, what I would say is, we’ve been reading a lot of analyst reports and we’ve read quite a few that show an expectation of upwards of $100 billion for Oracle to go out and kind of complete these build-outs. And based on what we see right now, we expect we will need less, if not substantially less, money raised than that amount to go and fund this build-out.”

Current consensus estimates call for Oracle’s short-term debt to be around $33 billion and long-term debt to be about $151.2 billion by its Q4 2030, up from $8.1 billion and $100 billion, respectively, from its Q2 2026 results, a net increase of $76.1 million. So it’s not clear that Wall Street is very far off from that “less, if not substantially less” than $100 billion assessment, which has been enough to raise concerns about the company’s prospects as of late.

Ben Reitzes of Melius Research then noted that the company recently offered guidance for margins among its AI cloud customers to be in the 30% to 40% range over the life of a customer contract. “I guess my question is, how long will it take your AI margins across all your OCI data enters to ramp to that level and what needs to happen to get there?” he asked.

Oracle’s principal financial officer, Doug Kehring, replied (emphasis added):

“Look, the answer is it really depends. So the good thing is that as I mentioned earlier, we don’t actually incur any expenses for the data centers until they’re actually built up and running. And then we’ve highly optimized that process by which we actually put capacity in and then are able to hand that over to customers, which means that the period of time where we’re incurring expenses without that kind of revenue and the gross margin profile that we talked about is really on the order of a couple of months. So in that scenario, that time period is not material. So a couple of months is not a long time.

What actually matters much more is the overall mix of the data centers that we have online, right, and how they’re growing compared to the total amount that we’re scaling across the world. And so I think as we go through this build-out phase, right now, we’re in a phase of very rapid build-out without the majority of the capacity online, obviously, the aggregate mix is going to be lower. But as we actually get the majority of this capacity online — and that’s really our focus. The best way to improve margins quickly is to actually go out and deliver capacity faster. That ends up very rapidly ensuring that we get to that 30% to 40% gross margin profile for all of the AI data centers.”

I get it. It’s complicated. But in the words of Don Draper, “That’s what the money is for!”

What makes this answer perhaps a little unsatisfying is that recent results do not inspire much confidence in the speed of Oracle’s build-out and, in turn, its ability to turn its massive RPO into revenues.

“Oracle missing estimates on cloud infrastructure sales — up 66% in constant currency, vs. consensus of 69% — we believe were due to supply constraints that are also affecting other hyperscale cloud providers,” wrote Bloomberg Intelligence analysts Anurag Rana and Andrew Girard.

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The slow burn in software stocks is erupting into an all-out bonfire

Good results? Doesn’t matter. Good guidance? Doesn’t matter. Spending a ton to augment your business with AI? You’d better believe it doesn’t matter.

This earnings season, investors have decided that AI is enough of a long-term threat to the earnings power of software companies that the past three months or the next 12 are, at best, the calm before the storm. And heaven help management teams that didn’t offer strong results or a positive outlook.

The slow burn in software stocks has erupted into an all-out bonfire on Thursday, fueled by traders finding any excuse to sell Microsoft and ServiceNow after both reported robust quarterly results. The follow-through is weighing on the likes of Atlassian, Workday, Salesforce, Datadog, and Intuit. Put it all together and iShares Expanded Tech Software ETF is poised for its worst day since the Friday following the Rose Garden reciprocal tariff announcements in April 2025.

Here’s how an assortment of software companies have done on the session after reporting earnings:

Are there babies being thrown out with the bathwater here? Maybe. Probably, even!

But it likely won’t inspire too much confidence to learn that the last time the S&P 500 Software & Services industry group was down at least 20% over a 63-session stretch while the SPDR S&P 500 ETF was positive happened to be June 12, 2000.

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Joby plunges after announcing plans to raise $1 billion in convertible bonds and stock

Shares of air taxi maker Joby Aviation are down more than 14% in premarket trading after the company announced a $1 billion capital raise after the bell Wednesday.

Joby, which in December said it would invest in equipment, facilities, and employees to double its aircraft production output by 2027, is offering convertible senior notes due 2032.

According to reporting by Bloomberg, the notes are being offered with an up to 30% conversion premium. Bloomberg reports that the company is pricing its share offering between $11.35 and $11.75, representing up to a 15% discount on the stock as of Wednesday’s close.

Joby ended its third quarter with $978.1 million in cash and cash equivalents, down slightly from its second quarter. Its shares have risen 62% over the past 12 months, compared to a more than 14% loss for its rival Archer Aviation in the same stretch.

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Why Meta is ripping higher after earnings while Microsoft craters

Two hyperscalers. Two top- and bottom-line beats. Two different reactions.

When both companies issue capex guidance that’s higher than expected and one goes up and the other goes down, it’s difficult for me to argue that the capex outlook is the key driver of either market reaction.

So here’s a smattering of potential reasons for the divergent paths of Meta and Microsoft since releasing quarterly earnings reports after the close on Wednesday, which has seen the former rally while the latter gets crushed:

  • Microsoft cloud growth is slowing; Meta’s top line is poised to accelerate.

    • Azure revenues were up 38% year on year in constant currency terms, a modest sequential slowdown since Q2 2025, and management’s guidance for growth of 37% to 38% in the current quarter implies this trend is likely to continue.

    • The midpoint of Meta’s guidance for revenues between $53.5 billion and $56.5 billion this quarter would mark an acceleration to sales growth of 30% year on year. Since the AI boom started, its high-water mark for sales growth has been 27%.

  • Customer quality and concentration matters:

    • While Microsoft enjoyed solid ex-OpenAI growth in its remaining performance obligations, that one customer is still responsible for 45% of commercial RPO. Look at Oracle to get a glimpse of what investors think about firms whose AI build-outs use OpenAI demand as scaffolding.

    • Meta’s lack of a cloud business has been an oft-cited negative about the aggressiveness of its build-out. The company arguably has to work harder than other hyperscalers to turn that spending into sales growth. And... that’s happening.

  • Initial conditions matter:

    • There was probably a little more embedded pessimism on Meta than Microsoft heading into these reports. As of Wednesday’s close, it was the only member of the Magnificent 7 to trade lower over the past 12 months.

Cheers to Duncan Weldon, VKMacro, and George Pearkes, whose back-and-forth on Bluesky inspired this post.

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Microsoft just delivered a big blow to Michael Burry’s AI bear case

Microsoft’s chief financial officer, Amy Hood, just offered some intel that severely undercuts Michael Burry’s argument against AI stocks, albeit with one big caveat.

If you’ll recall, the hedge fund manager turned Substacker of “The Big Short” fame said that tech companies were understating depreciation charges — that is, how fast GPUs lose their value over time, in a bid to artificially juice profits.

During Microsoft’s conference call on Wednesday, the CFO was asked how the company will be able to capture enough revenue over the six-year useful life of the hardware to justify the outlays. Her response:

“The way to think about that is the majority of the capital that were spending today and a lot of the GPUs that were buying are already contracted for most of their useful life,” she said. “And so a way to think about that is much of that risk that I think youre pointing to isnt there because theyre already sold for the entirety of their useful life.”

The implication here is that not only will these chips make money for as long as tech companies expect they will, but that their useful economic life might actually be longer than that, not shorter.

This tidbit is obviously positive for the hyperscalers, which are spending hundreds of billions on these GPUs. But it’s probably even more of a relief to neoclouds that are even more dependent on these chips being able to generate cash. That’s (mostly) all there is to their businesses, unlike megacap tech giants.

It also corroborates commentary from one such neocloud, CoreWeave, on how well these processors retain value.

“For example, in Q3, we saw our first 10,000-plus H100 contract approaching expiration,” CoreWeave CEO Michael Intrator said after the firm’s most recent earnings report. “Two quarters in advance, the customer proactively recontracted for the infrastructure at a price within 5% of the original agreement.”

And per Silicon Data, H100 rental rates have firmed significantly since the end of November.

However, I’d be remiss not to point out a potential fly in the ointment here: one reason that Microsoft’s GPUs are contracted for most of their useful life is thanks to demand from OpenAI, which accounts for 45% of its commercial remaining performance obligations.

And, if Oracle’s shown us anything, it’s that customer concentration and quality matters.

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Nvidia, Microsoft, and Amazon reportedly in talks to invest up to $60 billion in OpenAI

OpenAI is bringing in more revenue than ever, but with ambitions to spend north of $1 trillion on its AI infrastructure build-out — cash that it simply does not have to hand — it’s maybe no surprise that the company is almost constantly in fundraising mode.

And its latest discussions could see the company raise as much as $60 billion from three of its biggest suppliers, with The Information reporting that Nvidia, Microsoft, and Amazon may anchor a larger round that could see the ChatGPT maker raise as much as $100 billion.

Per The Information’s sources, existing investor Nvidia is in discussions to invest up to $30 billion, new investor Amazon is considering $10 billion to more than $20 billion, while Microsoft, which is also already heavily invested with a 27% stake, is looking at less than $10 billion.

Separately, reporting from the Financial Times confirms some of the same broader details, like that the three tech companies are indeed close to participating in a larger ~$100 billion round. However, the sources cited by the FT put the combined total investment from the trio of tech titans closer to $40 billion.

While OpenAI is close to receiving term sheets, or an investment commitment, from these companies, according to The Information, their investments could depend on other deals that they are already negotiating with OpenAI separately, including its cloud server rental deal with Amazon.

Earlier this week, reports emerged that SoftBank might plow a further $30 billion into OpenAI as well — presumably as part of this larger round.

And its latest discussions could see the company raise as much as $60 billion from three of its biggest suppliers, with The Information reporting that Nvidia, Microsoft, and Amazon may anchor a larger round that could see the ChatGPT maker raise as much as $100 billion.

Per The Information’s sources, existing investor Nvidia is in discussions to invest up to $30 billion, new investor Amazon is considering $10 billion to more than $20 billion, while Microsoft, which is also already heavily invested with a 27% stake, is looking at less than $10 billion.

Separately, reporting from the Financial Times confirms some of the same broader details, like that the three tech companies are indeed close to participating in a larger ~$100 billion round. However, the sources cited by the FT put the combined total investment from the trio of tech titans closer to $40 billion.

While OpenAI is close to receiving term sheets, or an investment commitment, from these companies, according to The Information, their investments could depend on other deals that they are already negotiating with OpenAI separately, including its cloud server rental deal with Amazon.

Earlier this week, reports emerged that SoftBank might plow a further $30 billion into OpenAI as well — presumably as part of this larger round.

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