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Rivian finally made a gross profit, but the company is still a cash incinerator extraordinaire

Rivian’s stunning adventure vehicles don’t burn anything to keep moving. That’s not true for the company itself.

David Crowther

Yesterday, electric vehicle manufacturer Rivian reported a major milestone: $170 million of gross profit in Q4, the company’s first-ever quarter with that metric out of the red. Investors liked that, but had less sympathy for Rivian’s new delivery guidance of 46,000 to 51,000 vehicles, which at its midpoint implies that the company is expecting to deliver roughly 6% fewer vehicles than the ~51,600 it managed in 2024.

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Selling cars for more than they cost you to make is, of course, a major step down the road toward profitability. But covering the rest of your company’s expenses — marketing, sales, research and development, HR, accounting, legal — is a completely different journey. And for Rivian, it’s one that will require a lot more scale... and a lot more capital. Since Rivian’s public markets debut in 2021, when it raised ~$13.5 billion — America’s seventh largest IPO at the time — the company has been steadily burning its cash reserves.

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While the company’s cash pile actually rose this quarter by about $1 billion, that figure was lifted thanks to $1.3 billion received in November in conjunction with the closing of its joint venture with automotive giant Volkswagen. For the year as a whole, the company still burned through $1.7 billion in its core operating activities.

On the earnings call, Claire Rauh McDonough, the company’s chief financial officer, addressed the issue:

During 2024, we reinforced Rivians long-term financial flexibility. We received $2.3 billion of the expected $5.8 billion of funding from the joint venture transaction with Volkswagen Group. We also announced the closing of an up to $6.6 billion Department of Energy loan, which together with the remaining proceeds from the Volkswagen Group is expected to fund an incremental $10.1 billion of potential capital on top of the $7.7 billion of capital we had on hand as of December 31, 2024.

TLDR: Rivian says it has nearly $18 billion of accessible capital on hand to ramp up the production of its R2 and R3 vehicles and forge a path toward actually making money. A few short years ago, it had a very similar amount on its balance sheet.

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Shares of eBay fell as much as 10.5% in premarket trading on Thursday morning after the company gave a lower-than-expected profit forecast for the important holiday shopping season.

The e-commerce giant reported solid numbers for the third quarter on Wednesday, with revenue up 9% as reported to $2.8 billion and gross merchandise volume rising 10% to $20.1 billion, topping the average analyst forecast of $19.4 billion, per Bloomberg.

However, concerns about the future somewhat overshadowed these results.

eBay outlined its profit outlook for the period ending in December to $1.31 to $1.36 a share, with revenue at $2.83 billion to $2.89 billion. According to Bloomberg-compiled data, this broadly matches Wall Street’s estimates for the top line, but misses on the bottom line, with analysts forecasting EPS to come in at $1.39 — suggesting the company expects some further margin pressure.

The company has been facing macroeconomic challenges since the US ended the de minimis tariff exemption in late August, with the online marketplace reliant on shipments. One small silver lining? CFO Peggy Alford highlighted a “less durable trend” on a post-earnings call: that as commodity prices for precious metals boomed, demand for bullion and collectible coins on eBay spiked.

However, concerns about the future somewhat overshadowed these results.

eBay outlined its profit outlook for the period ending in December to $1.31 to $1.36 a share, with revenue at $2.83 billion to $2.89 billion. According to Bloomberg-compiled data, this broadly matches Wall Street’s estimates for the top line, but misses on the bottom line, with analysts forecasting EPS to come in at $1.39 — suggesting the company expects some further margin pressure.

The company has been facing macroeconomic challenges since the US ended the de minimis tariff exemption in late August, with the online marketplace reliant on shipments. One small silver lining? CFO Peggy Alford highlighted a “less durable trend” on a post-earnings call: that as commodity prices for precious metals boomed, demand for bullion and collectible coins on eBay spiked.

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