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Salesforce slump shows why the AI software trade remains interesting
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Salesforce’s slump shows the market still thinks AI is coming for software. But what if it doesn’t?

There wasn’t much proof of disruption in Salesforce’s numbers. Meanwhile, it’s trading around its lowest price-to-earnings ratio ever.

Matt Phillips

Yesterday, we mentioned recent chatter suggesting that the next big phase of the moveable market feast that is AI could be centered on the software business.

Well if it is, nobody told Salesforce shareholders.

Shares of the maker of customer relationship management software tumbled Thursday despite the company posting better-than-expected fiscal Q2 earnings that beat on both the top and bottom lines.

A somewhat lackluster forecast for next quarter’s sales was universally blamed for the roughly 5% tumble.

But the broader picture is that the market remains skeptical that dominant players in the highly lucrative “software as a service” (SaaS) business, like Salesforce, can avoid being disrupted by cheaper, AI-native companies. The threat is that such companies can develop software quicker and sell it for less, eating the incumbents’ lunch.

That seems worth considering. But there was scant proof of disruption to be found in Salesforce’s numbers. Sales, order backlogs, and operating margins continue to grow at a solid clip. And while the guidance might have been light compared to Wall Street expectations, it still suggests acceleration out of Salesforce’s recent slow patch.

At the same time, Salesforce spotlighted progress on its own AI offerings, noting that the Q2 annual run rate for its Agentforce and Data Cloud products hit $1.2 billion, up 120% from the previous year.

The stock’s tumble Thursday suggests investors haven’t been won over by such numbers about Salesforce’s next chapter as an agentic AI giant.

Morgan Stanley analysts suggest the company’s detailed presentation at its October Agentforce conference — where it will demo the next generation of the software and offer testimonials from customers about its value — could bolster confidence in the stock.

But in the meantime, Salesforce, down about 27% this year, remains pretty cheap for a large-cap tech name. It’s trading at roughly 20x expected earnings over the next year, near the lowest level in its 20-odd years as a publicly traded company.

“Bottom line, this strong positioning to benefit from the expanded capabilities of GenAI remains unappreciated in a marketplace thinking ‘SaaS is dead,” Morgan Stanley analysts wrote. “We see a positive risk/reward in [Salesforce] and remain firmly overweight.”

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Opendoor surges on bullish options bets as traders look to potential real estate tokenization

Opendoor Technologies is surging on Friday amid bullish options bets and social media posts referencing unconfirmed rumors about the company.

The stock moved higher in the premarket session after the soft inflation report boosted stocks and briefly pushed long-term bond yields lower (positive for a real estate company). But the real gains came after the opening bell rang and options demand picked up.

As of 12:11 p.m. ET, roughly 664,000 call options have changed hands versus a 10-day average of about 364,000 for a full session.

What seems to be galvanizing members of the “$OPEN Army” is the potential for the company to pursue the tokenization of real-world assets, with Robinhood often bandied about as a potential partner in this endeavor.

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Opendoor bulls have often pointed to signs that Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev appears to be fond of the company, from what appeared on-screen during a demo of a social trading feature at HOOD’s conference in Las Vegas in September to offering support to Opendoor CEO Kaz Nejatian in setting up an opportunity for retail shareholders to ask questions during the online real estate company’s next earnings call.

Opendoor is currently in a quiet period ahead of earnings, which restricts what type of announcements a company can make.

The call options seeing the most demand expire this Friday with strike prices of $8, $8.50, and $9.

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Beyond Meat gains amid slightly better-than-expected Q3 sales, positive commentary on legal issues

Shares of Beyond Meat built on their premarket gains after the plant-based meat seller reported preliminary Q3 sales a bit ahead of Wall Street’s expectations, before paring this advance after the market opened.

For the three months ended September 27, management said net revenue would be approximately $70 million. That’s in line with their guidance range of $68 million to $73 million, but Wall Street was expecting sales to skew toward the lower end of that range, at $68.7 million.

However, its anticipated gross margin of 10% to 11% is lower than analysts had been expecting (13.8%). That’s still the case even adjusting for expenses related to its downsizing of operations in China, which would have left margins around 12% to 13%, per Beyond.

Perhaps more importantly, the company provided positive commentary regarding arbitration discussions with a former co-manufacturer that appear to bring it closer to a resolution while limiting potential damages:

“As previously disclosed, in March 2024, a former co-manufacturer brought an action against the Company in a confidential arbitration proceeding claiming that the Company inappropriately terminated its agreement with the co-manufacturer and claimed damages of at least $73.0 million. On September 15, 2025, the arbitrator issued an interim award (the ‘Interim Award’) and found that the Company had a valid basis to terminate the agreement with the Manufacturer. The details of the Interim Award are confidential, and a final arbitration award has not been issued. Additional proceedings will be held to determine the award of attorneys’ fees, prejudgment interest and costs, if any, before a final arbitration award will be issued. On September 25, 2025, the Manufacturer filed a request with the arbitrator to re-open the arbitration hearing. On September 29, 2025, the Company opposed this request. On October 20, 2025, the arbitrator denied the Manufacturer’s request.”

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